Mohammad Ashghar yn gadael Plaid Cymru

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Postiogan Darth Sgonsan » Maw 15 Rhag 2009 7:15 pm

Rhodri Nwdls a ddywedodd:Ta waeth be ma di neud, a ffacinel ma na nonsens yn cael ei siarad yma am hynny, sa'n rwbath petae pobol efo'r parch i sillafu ei enw'n gywir.


mae nhw'n galw fo'n Oscar lawr yn y Cynulliad, so dwn i ddim am be ti'n son efo'r busnas sillafu yma. pedantig shemantig

a dydi Oscar a parch ddim yn haeddu bod yn yr un frawddeg. ma'r boi yn nepotist afiach:

Job-ban on daughter was the final straw, admits AM Asghar
Dec 15 2009 by Martin Shipton, Western Mail


A PLAID Cymru AM who defected to the Conservatives has admitted he did so because he was told he could not employ his daughter as a press officer.

Last week Mohammad Asghar, who represents South Wales East, became the first AM to switch parties since the National Assembly was set up.

At the press conference where he announced his defection, Mr Asghar said he had done so because he disagreed with Plaid’s aim of Welsh independence and because he loved the Royal Family.

But in an interview with the community radio station Newport City Radio, Mr Asghar has now said the “final straw” for him was when Plaid leader Ieuan Wyn Jones told him he could not employ his daughter Natasha.

An independent panel chaired by Sir Roger Jones recommended that AMs should not in future recruit members of their own families to work for them.

The Plaid group agreed to introduce such a rule immediately, and all its elected members were told to abide by it.

But after legal advice suggesting a ban on AMs employing family members could be unlawful, the Assembly decided not to ban relatives from applying for such jobs, but to ensure all candidates went through a full appointments process.

In his interview with Paul Heaney of the radio station, Mr Asghar claimed Plaid leader Mr Jones told him he had “better not” employ his daughter after initially saying it would be “hunky dory, wonderful” to do so.

Mr Asghar said: “I said, can I employ her without wages? I will pay all of her salary to charity.

“I said, make a list of charities for the next 12 months, all of her salary will go to charity. He said no, you can’t have her. I think that was the last straw, because I was not doing anything illegal. I promised to pay every penny of her salary to the charity of their choice.

“And that was refused. So you can imagine as a father what I had to do.”

Asked whether he had discussed with Welsh Conservative group leader Nick Bourne the prospect of employing his daughter, Mr Asghar said: “Yes, they know all about it ... I know the Conservative Party, their priority is to make every family in the United Kingdom prosperous and happy.

“I think if she’s competent enough and if she’s good enough I’m sure she can achieve whatever, and she can contribute to the community and the party at the same time.”

A Plaid Cymru spokesman said: “It is now clear from Mohammad Asghar’s comments that his reasons for leaving Plaid Cymru were wholly self-serving. He wanted to employ his daughter; he was stopped from doing so as a Plaid Cymru AM and therefore he jumped to a different party.

“Mr Asghar has now finally come clean on the fact that his decision to defect to the Tories had nothing whatsoever to do with his political beliefs.

“At no point did Mr Asghar tell the party that he would be willing to donate his daughter’s salary to charity for 12 months. Even if Mr Asghar had made this offer, it would not have changed the party’s view that members should not make any new appointments of family members.

“Writing in the Western Mail on Saturday Mr Asghar claimed that he had argued against independence while a Plaid member and that he was in a minority and that his ‘view was defeated’. To the best of its knowledge Plaid Cymru has no record of Mohammad Asghar ever arguing against the party’s constitutional aspirations either within the National Executive, the National Council, the conference or the Assembly Group.

“To the contrary, Mr Asghar voted in the Assembly to support independence on July 7 this year.”

It has also emerged that he wrote an e-mail to a Plaid official as recently as October 26 asking to be considered as a candidate at the 2011 Assembly election.

A spokesman for the Welsh Conservatives said they had no comment except to repeat their support for the Jones Review
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Postiogan Nanog » Maw 15 Rhag 2009 7:17 pm

Ray Diota a ddywedodd:
nanog, damo ti a dy nonsens yn sbwylio'r edefyn 'ma

cere am dro ffaro, ffiti di mewn yn bert:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?


Wel wel wel.....beth ddywedais i am 'illegal immigrants'? Y 'Daily Mail'! Huh! Dwi'n cofio'r Gath yn dweud wrthyf fyd mod i'n 'Guardianista'. :?
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Postiogan Seonaidh/Sioni » Maw 15 Rhag 2009 8:27 pm

Y peth sy warthus ydy fod o'n AC o hyd.

Mewn etholaeth, mae pobl yn pleidleisio dros berson - OK, bydd bron pawb ohonyn nhw'r ymgeiswyr yn aelod o blaid ac yn sefyll drosti, ond person, dim plaid, sy'n cael ei ethol. Felly, yn fy marn i, pryd mae aelod o'r fath yn newid plaid, mae hawl iddi/iddo am ymaros fel cynrychiolydd. Hefyd, pryd mae aelod o'r fath yn ymddeol neu'n dod yn farw, mae is-etholiad.

Ond beth ddigwyddiff os bydd aelod "ar y rhestr" yn ymddeol ac ati? Does na ddim "is-etholiad": dim ond i'r aelod nesa ar y rhestr o'u plaid eu hun yn cael aelodaeth yn awtomatig. Pam? Gan mai dros y blaid, dim dros y person, mae'r etholiad am aelodau rhanbarthol.

Felly, yn fy marn i, pryd mae aelod o'r fath yn newid plaid, dylai ymddeol ac dylai'r aelod nesaf o'r blaid ar y rhestr yn cael aelodaeth awtomatig. Be dych chi'n feddwl?
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Postiogan Sleepflower » Mer 16 Rhag 2009 9:14 am

Darth Sgonsan a ddywedodd:
Rhodri Nwdls a ddywedodd:Ta waeth be ma di neud, a ffacinel ma na nonsens yn cael ei siarad yma am hynny, sa'n rwbath petae pobol efo'r parch i sillafu ei enw'n gywir.


mae nhw'n galw fo'n Oscar lawr yn y Cynulliad, so dwn i ddim am be ti'n son efo'r busnas sillafu yma. pedantig shemantig



Fi'n credu beth wedd Nwdls yn cyfeirio ato wedd pobl yn ei alw'n "Muhammed Ashgar", er enghraifft, nid cyfeirio at bobl yn denfyddio "Oscar". Cywira fi os fi'n anghywir.
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Postiogan Sleepflower » Mer 16 Rhag 2009 9:20 am

Seonaidh/Sioni a ddywedodd:Y peth sy warthus ydy fod o'n AC o hyd.

Mewn etholaeth, mae pobl yn pleidleisio dros berson - OK, bydd bron pawb ohonyn nhw'r ymgeiswyr yn aelod o blaid ac yn sefyll drosti, ond person, dim plaid, sy'n cael ei ethol. Felly, yn fy marn i, pryd mae aelod o'r fath yn newid plaid, mae hawl iddi/iddo am ymaros fel cynrychiolydd. Hefyd, pryd mae aelod o'r fath yn ymddeol neu'n dod yn farw, mae is-etholiad.

Ond beth ddigwyddiff os bydd aelod "ar y rhestr" yn ymddeol ac ati? Does na ddim "is-etholiad": dim ond i'r aelod nesa ar y rhestr o'u plaid eu hun yn cael aelodaeth yn awtomatig. Pam? Gan mai dros y blaid, dim dros y person, mae'r etholiad am aelodau rhanbarthol.

Felly, yn fy marn i, pryd mae aelod o'r fath yn newid plaid, dylai ymddeol ac dylai'r aelod nesaf o'r blaid ar y rhestr yn cael aelodaeth awtomatig. Be dych chi'n feddwl?


Fi'n cytuno 100% gyda'r dadansoddiad yma, ac yn sicr, mae synnwyr cyffredin yn dweud fel hyn dylai pethau bod. Yn anffodus, dyw Mohammad Asghar ddim wedi torri unrhyw rheolau. Felly, yn hytrach na gofyn iddo am sefyll lawr (ochos lets ffes it, dyw e ddim mynd i ) dylwn ni i gyd, o bob gefndir wleidyddol, mynnu i'r rheolau cael eu diwygio er mwyn atal hyn rhag ddigwydd eto, er fudd hygrededd ein democratiaeth a'n system o gynrychiolaeth gyfrannol.
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Postiogan Darth Sgonsan » Mer 16 Rhag 2009 11:02 am

Sleepflower a ddywedodd:
Darth Sgonsan a ddywedodd:
Rhodri Nwdls a ddywedodd:Ta waeth be ma di neud, a ffacinel ma na nonsens yn cael ei siarad yma am hynny, sa'n rwbath petae pobol efo'r parch i sillafu ei enw'n gywir.


mae nhw'n galw fo'n Oscar lawr yn y Cynulliad, so dwn i ddim am be ti'n son efo'r busnas sillafu yma. pedantig shemantig



Fi'n credu beth wedd Nwdls yn cyfeirio ato wedd pobl yn ei alw'n "Muhammed Ashgar", er enghraifft, nid cyfeirio at bobl yn denfyddio "Oscar". Cywira fi os fi'n anghywir.


dwi'n dalld beth wedd gan Nwdls, sef bod pobol yn rhoi'r 'h' yn 'Asghar' yn y lle rong - hardli'n drosedd y ganrif. Ma'n enw anghyffredin, mor gymaint felly nes fod o wedi'i fedyddio'n Oscar...dwi methu'n glir a gweld unrhyw ddiffyg parch yn hyn
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